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morning all after lengthy consultation with one of the compliance officers i have further info, i will write a letter on here once compiled & run by our gambling licence consultant, hopefully will clarify things & clarify the law on what can & cant be done. have a great day

after consultation with both the Gambling Commission & also with our independent Gaming consultant this is what they have said, this is the law, nothing to do with me or anyone else this is law, like it or dont like is this is what you need, im not looking at grassing anyone or having a dig at anyone, the AWP market is not my forte, & never will be, i wheel & deal in classic collectors machines as anyone who knows me & my company will be aware ,its all about a level playing field in the selling marketplace & being legal with your business. 1. Full Manufacture & Operating licence: To Manufacture, Supply, Install, Adapt, Maintain & Repair a gaming machine or part of a gaming machine. 2. Operating licence, to Supply: Supply, Install, Adapt, Maintain & Repair a gaming machine or part of a gaming machine. 3. FEC Licence : To operate an Family Entertainment Centre premises ( this license DOES NOT allow you to Manufacture, Supply, Install, Adapt, Maintain & Repair a gaming machine or part of a gaming machine. You are not allowed to repair your own machines either, you ARE NOT allowed to sell machines to anyone other than trading them in for newer equipment ) NB you can update to an FEC Linked Licence that allows you to repair your own machines, but it does not allow you to supply machines. 4. AGC Licence: To operate an Adult Gaming Centre Premises, ( this license DOES NOT allow you to Manufacture, Supply, Install, Adapt, Maintain & Repair a gaming machine or part of a gaming machine. You are not allowed to repair your own machines either , you ARE NOT allowed to sell machines to anyone other than trading them in for newer equipment ) NB you can update to an AGC Linked Licence that allows you to repair your own machines, but it does not allow you to supply machines. 5. You can add on an operating license to both FEC & AGC licenses at an extra cost , ( but as standard they do not allow you to do the supply machines part ) 6. You CAN NOT act as an agent or a salesperson for a company that holds an operating licence, unless you hold an operators licence yourself. 7. You CAN NOT offer a repair service for gaming machines or parts from gaming machines , without holding an operating licence. 8. You are able to obtain a permit to sell gaming machines ( one off licence ) which allows you to sell legally, after speaking to the commission they said “ You can obtain 2 permits per year ,per person, if you apply for a third permit the commission will treat you as requiring an operating licence,all transactions are monitored & logged” 9. For Home Use only: This has been seen on a lot of social media sites, making the sellers think if they use this they are exempt from any issues, this is fiction, If you are selling gaming machines, you either need a permit to sell up to 2 per year or you need an operating licence, this is a fact. 10. The gambling commission have very little interest in Pre Legacy machines, there`s a large following of collectors & enthusiasts out there that collect machines from the early 1900`s to the early electronic machines from the 70`s, 80`s & 90`s & we will also see that people want the stuff from the 2000`s soon also, although these machines are clearly a gaming machine, they normally end up in collectors own collections ,these do change hands but normally to other collectors, again if you are buying & selling more than 2 of these for commercial gain you will need an operating licence, if you are operating these in an arcade or premises again for commercial gain, you will need either an FEC or AGC licence. 11. Finally all relevant information is on the Gambling commissions website, not understanding gambling laws is not a get out of jail card, if you don’t understand something, you need to speak to someone who does, Debbie Bollard is an independent Gaming Licence specialist please consult her if you require any help, Debbie`s details are here: Debbie Bollard Licensing Consultant Hough & Bollard Ltd. Phone: 01526 341162 Mobile: 07854149504 Email: debbie@houghandbollard.co.uk www.houghandbollard.co.uk

if you submerge the whole machine in water whilst turned on and touching it the noise should disappear forever failing that , get shirts round ... he'll sort it

ive told the chruch to cancel the tombola as its a gambling device capable of giving a prize by way of a tin of beans or a toilet roll holder if a winning ticket is picked after youve paid and its spun i know they wouldnt want to get in bother with the GC lol

I think we should all copy player and use “fuck the GC” as our member title if we are in disagreement with there bullshit.

Tell them, from me, to get fucked. I hope this clarifies my position.

Morning all, just to be clear, my recent rant about unlicensed AWP sellers was not aimed at Legacy & pre legacy machines ( like the stuff we all collect ) its aimed solely at people selling modern machines in big numbers without an operating license, theres loads of fruit machines for sale & wanted on Facebook & theres clearly people selling them commercially without the proper licence, i have to pay £5k per year for our Sell, Supply , Manufacture & repair license, these guys are just flouting the law, which makes it an uneven playing field in my eyes, we dont sell much in the lines of AWP other than PX`s we take that we just flip into licenced dealers we know, we have to hold a licence for Cranes, redemption machines & the likes of that as they are all classified as gambling, im about to approach the GC to see if they will listen about making legacy & machines before that Exempt from the Gambling laws, probably on a 20-25 year rolling age ( bit like classic car tax ), i will try this through a consultant to see if we can make any headway. cheers for now, Ian

Keep hoping,I almost feel like buying you one dude

Just give up on fruit machines and collect video games or pinball machines instead, problems solved!!!

JC would sort it

"deformation" of character? I think he means defamation. Anyways, what it all means is that what we do is, in the eyes of the law, the same as dealing brand new machines. The law does not currently differentiate between old or new.

Point 10 states 'for commercial gain'. Now I'm an engineer not a lawyer but my interpretation of 'commercial' would be a business? I am probably wrong but I fail to see how me selling a machine to another collector could be deemed 'commercial gain'? Even if I sold it for a tenner more than I paid for it. Really is a complete load of bollocks and yet another tax on those of us with an interest. I don't watch TV but I still have to pay the BBC tax.

#10 is fine by me. It's not written but presumably you're allowed to maintain your own collections and trade legacy parts? I don't know how the gambling commission can inforce the two maines sales for financial gain so it's pretty much the same as before for us honest collectors. What does it mean for the person using social media as an outlet for machines running illegal software? That's what we want to know are the GC going to do anything?

They pulse the windings on the motor, this keeps the reels in place And saves the windings and drive circuits getting hot by not supplying continuous power to them

Can someone help me please changed battery in my mpu6 and the thing don’t even light up now can any one help regards

"let it snow" I bet!

Sorted i managed to cut down the pic tool 👍😁

Yeah bottom door lock i would say would be easy buy its getting the angle for the top cab

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