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come on lads lets put this shit to bed and try to get on a long with each other life is to short lol

Hats off to @EddieC - this sort of stuff is painstaking work, thankfully we have the emulator from Chris (RIP man) - which allows for much faster testing of ROM hacks than if the changes had to be tested on real hardware each time I did get a few requests for this gamble block stuff, but I just did the CHR stuff for a bit of a diversion from other projects since it meant fruit machines could live again that otherwise would get broken up for parts... so I couldn't justify the time requirements for this gamble block type work. Like I said above, and I'm sure Eddie can fully attest to, it is absolutely and utterly painstaking, trying to find the relevant routines, then figure out the relevant patches - it's really low level hacking! (plus of course you might need to hack out checksums/chr along the way) - Great work Eddie, really good to see someone has taken this on (takes the pressure off me haha! Very few fruit machine rom hackers around these days)

Fuck me, this shit still bubbling up from time to time. Threats are a HUGE NONO. Freedom, you are a nasty piece of work, apparently. As soon as anything hits the interwebs, its public and anyone can do anything they want with it.

Sorry bit late to the party, been unwell so only just seen this - great work @EddieC!

Read some roms I have a set of each way nudger SRU roms that I want to verify and make copies of. The rom card is here and the EPROMs look worse for wear. They are from a £2 jackpot, £1.60 gamble ladder, 10p play machine. I had not seen version 26 before so was eager to make a copy. The programmer read all of the roms with no problems at all. I saved the bin files to my computer. Then tried the roms in the emulator to check that they work, unfortunately it wouldn’t boot. On further investigation I found that Rom 1 had quite a bit of corrosion on the legs and read as being empty. Maybe it wasn’t making a good contact with the programmer. Anyway I had a look in the downloads section under SRU and found a zip of random SRU roms that had been dumped in the past. I was quite happy to find a dump of EWN1A26.BIN. I added it to my other two files that I dumped and they ran up in the emulator without any issues. Just shows the power of the Mecca !! The programmer seems to work well and I’ll test the programming functionality when my 2708’s arrive. However, as the project has been built many times I have every confidence it will work. If anyone wants a board to build one themselves, let me know.

We shouldn't be falling out over resources at end of day it a hobby and history we don't need drama

When we get the machine images (which we will ) then a dx will be made exclusively on here and desert island maybe fruit-emu too in the meantime your layout will do just fine not sure if I thanked you on this site, if not Thankyou for this unique layout keep em coming.. As @quattrohead states once a file is available on the net anyone from anywhere can do what they want with it, just a suggestion @Freedom if you don’t want people “tampering or nicking parts or f a layout” don’t release them and make your site a private closed site and not open to the general public that way no one who’s not in the club will get their grubby mitts on anything you have plain n simple or block every member from downloading on your site?

Please do host it, on your site, I would hope that not all the members on Freedom Fruits, are as immature as you. It's not published, so can be as childish as you like with it as well.

I'm taking no sides here but if Wearecity says he didn't use any part of Chloe's classic then I totally believe him. He's been around from day DOT and at one time used to playtest all my layouts, so in my view can be fully trusted. As for Freedom, I mentioned in PM (if you remember zippy) that running a forum isn't an easy job and went on to explain why. Anyway, in my view you should open the Forum to everyone REGARDLESS and forget all this 'invite only' policy which only promotes antagonism for those who don't have the chance to join. OK so you may have access to exclusive roms from Mr P (or wherever), so what? Over the years I've provided thousands of roms to the scene which I've managed to scavenge by various means and not once have I held them back to try and score points over any other forum. A lot of the Astra, Bellfruit, QPS, Mazooma, Empire & Union Games roms you have came via me. I've even gone out of my way to have them dumped from my own machine. In these days of FME we should be sharing EVERYTHING and be one big happy family. Wizard, for many many years wouldn't come near my forum as he thought I was a complete TWAT, but thankfully in the end we became very good friends and I'll always remember that with pride. Life's too short for all this bullshit!!

Hi all Not sure if this is the right subforum for this, but they have an 'original' (ie. UK original) Pong machine in this RMC video, and they believe it was retrofitted into an ACE fruit machine cabinet. If anyone might know it's you folks! Here's the video, starting around the relevant part: Please either let RMC know directly, but please also post here and I should be able to get that info back to some arcade history guys - thanks for looking

Also to add @Freedom the first dx from @Clo06 trick or treat ( which a great looking first dx by the way) there’s no mention of thanking the flyer/image provider and reels which may of been remade, which imo doesn’t really matter but if we gotta thank for reels etc then it works both ways as the flyer/ images were originally via DIF /mecca or dif they miraculously appear overnight. I personally don’t want to fallout with anyone, we’re all here for one reason. To do the hobby we love and we should all respect each other in doing so so we can’t thank everyone including god for life edit to add maybe @Clo06 can bring a reply to all this after all it was her first comment which started all this arguments

Nice project Ed and glad you got it sorted.

Thanks Dad, for a decent overall post and at least publicly saying, what I have said several times now, I did not download or play the other Circle Line layout. I made it from scratch, using the roms and the reels sent to me. Every single lamp/button/checkbox in that layout was created by me, without it. As said 50+ hours, creating something which I could have spent 2 or 3 hours producing, but wanted it to represent the look of the real machine, with just classic tools. The general consensus appears to be I was successful in doing so. I could have been an arse and asked for and downloaded the layout and just redesign everything, but I wouldn't do that. Again very disappointed in the other layout producer, for even thinking I would do that, after all these years. Furthermore, why would I even go to the trouble of producing my own layout, I could have just asked for the other one and just been happy playing the machine again. I don't know if it was done on the other layout, but publishing the layout, will lock the notes and caption and would prevent any of the above accusations. I would suggest any layout released with the rule, that it can't be hosted elsewhere, should be published. Does anyone seriously think, that even not being a member of Freedom, would prevent members from elsewhere from gaining access to every layout released over there they wanted and then just posting them up for general download. Again I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing, I'm not that sort of person. Again I would suggest publishing such layouts, so at least the notes and caption will say who has produced them.

A bit like the second coming of Christ?? for fucks sake it’s a layout ok the reels may of been used may not who gives a shit! infact if @wearecity requires I’ll remake them just to keep you and your minions happy!!! so shall I withdraw the sound roms from trick or treat as YOU own them personally if someone releases a layout online then there’s nowt stopping someone stripping the layout of parts you can’t stop that unless you don’t release to the masses I’ve had this kind of attitude from various members so I know what I know Shall I delete layouts as I “forgot” to thank everyone from the homeless man outside quicksilvers to God!! We best get bellfruits permission every time we make a dond layout lol. give it a rest you’re not doing yourself any favours. your site dictates who and when a layout can be made, you have to thank god if you download a layout don’t deny that as it’s written in your rules section @Clo06 makes great classics and in time I’m sure she’ll understand and forgive (although dont see why as wearecity wrote “thanks to the rom/reel provider in the release notes) unfortunately clo06 with your comment, which you’re perfectly entitled to has opened the rift of fme which has been sealed for many a year

Np keep your shite layout, whats that you don't mention individuals, what, you was informed on Dickhead Island Fuckups who, what, where, why and when, what, think I will host it on our site for all to hate what!! As for @DAD thanks for the common courtesy with Majestic Bells, shows youre not a "follower", as for invite only it stays but there is always more than one way to skin that cat, so much so im sure screenies will be sent to you its amazing that you can know someone for 20 years + and still not know them, watch your step dude. Over and out😘